tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post8738068208165690757..comments2024-03-26T17:50:12.228+00:00Comments on Beyond the Riverbank: Stop Langford Wind Farm? Give it a rest! Tom Younghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06443128399990472390noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-80088359007629101322019-04-25T13:42:34.031+01:002019-04-25T13:42:34.031+01:00It's a pity that interest in this blog seems t...It's a pity that interest in this blog seems to have faded away. I have just come across it in the course of looking at sustainable energy in general. I wasn't keen when they were built first. But the odd thing is, I hardly notice them when in Langford, they become much more prominent when I'm in Clifton or Henlow. The main plus point, though, is they seem to be working most of the time - much more than I expected - so they are by no means useless. And there is a fund available for other renewables projects in the village - the Village Hall has benefited from it. So on balance I'm pleased that they're there.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05234302986863415266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-14426566828757982014-02-14T08:11:54.153+00:002014-02-14T08:11:54.153+00:00Such a nice post ! This is a positive change for ...Such a nice post ! This is a positive change for sustainability of our environment. And it is a solution to our problem about the pollution.jennifer ammersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14228007519844549705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-56006411963719292752014-01-09T13:24:52.222+00:002014-01-09T13:24:52.222+00:00The car wasn't the most economic, environmenta...The car wasn't the most economic, environmentally friendly or best looking thing when first invented. but all has improved over the years it just takes time and investment. I'm sure in years to come the turbines will become smaller and more efficient as technology evolves. it has to start somewhere.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-43086273275977476162014-01-03T20:43:29.582+00:002014-01-03T20:43:29.582+00:00Well Tom you have certainly started a debate and t...Well Tom you have certainly started a debate and this can only make us all more aware of the pros and cons for or against these ugly monstrosity's, littered around England's green and pleasant land, look forward to reading the response generatedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-75513768597007305392013-12-08T11:16:51.526+00:002013-12-08T11:16:51.526+00:00Thanks Mike!
TomThanks Mike! <br /><br />TomTom Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443128399990472390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-78302866714464543942013-12-04T14:32:39.974+00:002013-12-04T14:32:39.974+00:00Made good reading
Thanks
MikeMade good reading<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />MikeAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14255781238380627922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-79697391024381832452013-11-22T13:16:53.565+00:002013-11-22T13:16:53.565+00:00Thank you, some very interesting and valid points ...Thank you, some very interesting and valid points well put forward there Peter! I will have a proper read of the articles and get back to them when I have a bit of time. Would you recommend abandoning all efforts to build wind turbines and favour the continued use of drilling and mining for oil?Tom Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443128399990472390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-9834773216865769972013-11-22T10:10:34.936+00:002013-11-22T10:10:34.936+00:00Perhaps I could run through the points from top to...Perhaps I could run through the points from top to bottom. <br /><br />I don't know if you are aware of that the neodymium which is used in vast quantities for the magnets in turbine generators is mined by the 'open cast' method in China. The lake of toxic waste and the bellowing toxic CO2 rich smoke fills the horizon around the refinery. I think that you are just talking about geographical CO2 displacement. Check out http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1350811/In-China-true-cost-Britains-clean-green-wind-power-experiment-Pollution-disastrous-scale.html for the whole story.<br /> <br />But anyway, due to the intermittency of wind power, we need back up generators of the same capacity to be built for when the wind doesn't blow. This back up capacity is increasingly banks of dirty diesel generators whose owners are paid vast sums to keep them 'ready'. <br /><br />As far as the noise goes, just come back in a year of operation and ask the neighbours. Better still go to Cotton End wind farm near Gravely at the end of a warm summer day when the effect of temperature inversion will give your ears a treat.<br /><br />I admit that some people like the appearance and some don't, but if they are of no purpose then they are pointless. For more on that read on. By the way, electricity pylons are not pretty but they have the advantage that they don't move. Animals, including us, are programmed to notice movement because its either food or a predator.<br /><br />Regarding birds, have a look at youtube and see the birds cut in half and the bats dying from barotrauma. That's when the low pressure behind the turbine blades forces the bats lungs to burst and rupture. One pup being born per year means rapid decimation of local bat colonies. It may not be an issue at Langford but it is on a lot of sites and actually it is illegal to erect a device when it is reasonable to expect it to cause bat deaths. <br /><br />So, are they worth it? Well the 11,000 homes quoted may be achievable in year one, maybe not and it depends what they quoted as 'load capacity'. Because the wind doesn't blow at all sometimes, or it's too strong, the turbine only produces about a quarter of its capacity over the year. Wind developers often use 27% but that isn't achievable in Bedfordshire. The average for the whole of the UK is 24% in the first year (Renewable Energy Foundation). Why the first year? Because after that things go rapidly downhill. The generated power decreases by about 1% per annum until by year 17 it is down to just 9% or about 3,700 homes. All due to pitting of the turbine blades and wear and tear.<br /><br />The cost to you is about an extra £40 per megawatt hour over the normal wholesale price. If you take the whole life CO2 costs of construction and installation and the CO2 produced by the essential backup, you won't save the planet either. So who gains? Well as consumers and those living with them, we don't for sure but the developer surely does. He will make millions.Peter Gardnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-31539553581806761072013-09-11T20:38:29.108+01:002013-09-11T20:38:29.108+01:00Very good point indeed! xVery good point indeed! xLou Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933986820262509435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-86082632789278211912013-09-10T19:43:42.756+01:002013-09-10T19:43:42.756+01:00Thank you Brycchan, I am aware of your project, an...Thank you Brycchan, I am aware of your project, and think it is a fantastic idea! Good work, and I wish you the best of luck for the future! Did you receive much opposition to the project?Tom Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443128399990472390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-25077044683642292452013-09-10T19:36:13.721+01:002013-09-10T19:36:13.721+01:00Thank you Lou!
Definitely controversial. As far a...Thank you Lou!<br /><br />Definitely controversial. As far as I am aware, wind turbines do cause the odd death by collision but the numbers are not huge and are deemed insignificant by ecological surveys. But, shall we compare that to roadkill and ban cars from driving on roads that fragment our countryside? <br /><br />Tom xTom Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443128399990472390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-29399567121681567222013-09-10T19:33:44.253+01:002013-09-10T19:33:44.253+01:00There definitely needs to be a balance, and in a p...There definitely needs to be a balance, and in a place already ruined with the likes of cables, roads, fumes and railways I think they are a welcome sight and addition. Obviously it is a highly controversial issue, with plenty of material to debate (particularly about their effectiveness), I would not want our entire countryside and coasts used for construction of wind turbines, and I totally agree with your points about money and consumerism. A lot of it is just to satisfy the needs of thoughtless targets to make the government appear greener and more sustainable. If the wind was efficient enough, I would love to see turbines in and around cities where appropriate!! Roadside turbines would be nice! <br /><br />Thank you for the comments :) Tom Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443128399990472390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-6572786096090648852013-09-10T19:25:59.968+01:002013-09-10T19:25:59.968+01:00Thanks Tim! Thanks Tim! Tom Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443128399990472390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-28431884744360959242013-09-10T12:41:02.692+01:002013-09-10T12:41:02.692+01:00Thanks Tom for some great photographs and comments...Thanks Tom for some great photographs and comments. I have posted a link to your blog to members of Gamlingay Environmental Action Group. As you probably know, Gamlingay, about 6 miles from Langford, build its own community wind turbine this year. Not all rural communities are opposed to wind generation!Brycchan Carey, GEAG Coordinatorhttp://www.geag.org.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-6764374878053627622013-09-09T11:47:34.231+01:002013-09-09T11:47:34.231+01:00Some great points, power lines and pylons are far ...Some great points, power lines and pylons are far more of an eye-sore in my opinion. We recently had a wind farm built off our coast, which I didn't have anything against, but many did. There are always so many pros and cons to wind farms but it is a dead cert that we need renewable energy! Lots of birders don't agree with them around me because they insist that they fly into them. I don't know the figures but I should imagine that it isn't a large number?!<br /><br />As always you have produced a thought provoking post with some fantastic images :) <br /><br />Lou xLou Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933986820262509435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-88063842395434860682013-09-07T15:37:57.514+01:002013-09-07T15:37:57.514+01:00Interesting points Tom. There is a place for every...Interesting points Tom. There is a place for everything and we so need renewable energy. Coal pits, quarries, clay mines, nuclear power stations along the coast all make a terrible mess of the environment so wind farms are no different in this way. <br />I think we need to look at more appropriate places to put them though. The Isle of Skye is just so beautiful, as is the rest of Scotland, yet it has the potential of producing so much renewable energy through wind farms-a dilemma indeed. Is it really the only place available? What about our cities and towns?<br />I'd really like to see a nice big wind farm outside the houses of parliament and all across London as an example of supporting wind farms! Do you think there would be protests and consternation? Where were the wind turbines for the Olympic Games?<br />It's all about money and consumerism sadly and not about protecting our environment.<br />Why aren't all new houses built with solar panels and rain water harvesting to save our natural resources?<br />If someone had the stupid idea (and lets face it, it would be the greedy and incompetent Torbay Council) to put a wind farm on Berry Head-I'd be the first with my protest poster!SeagullSuziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15857680854262709165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6903284482657263539.post-24795321930884345662013-09-06T12:19:06.068+01:002013-09-06T12:19:06.068+01:00Excellent points well made.Excellent points well made.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06363592883349241096noreply@blogger.com